Desulfating a lead acid battery with the YIHUA 605D and Magnesium Sulfate

We’ve got a few “summer batteries” around here. By that, I mean they’ll start a car in the summer, but once fall comes around and temperatures start getting below freezing, all bets are off. Beyond that, we’ve got a collection of other batteries that just never made it in as core trade-ins.

And it’s probably a good thing too, because many of them can be restored.

One of the biggest early killers of 12 volt lead acid car batteries is sulfation. A battery dies, doesn’t get charged up again right away, and before you know it, sulfation has built up on the plates. This actually happens a lot here during winter, where a battery runs down fast, but because it’s so darn cold, it doesn’t easily charge all the way back up on short trips. The battery stratifies (sulphuric acid collects near the bottom with water collecting near the top), making the battery’s life even harder.

I have a video near the end that mirrors much of the write-up if you’d prefer to watch instead of read…

…otherwise, keep reading!


The YIHUA 605D

In any case, we recently got a hold of the YIHUA 605D 60V 5A Digital Precision Adjustable DC Power Supply which looks strikingly similar to ARKSEN, THAOXIN, WEP, XPOWER, and MAXTRA power supplies of the same model. It’s a fairly cheap (about $100) power supply, and at that price I doubt I’d trust it to cleanly/accurately power sensitive electronics, but we got it primarily for recharging batteries and it does the job here well.

Unfortunately, the instructions are gibberish (I suspect it was run through poor Chinese->English translation software), so if you’ve got the same supply, or are considering it and haven’t used one before, here’s a crash course in usage:

  • the dials set the max voltage and max current. This may or may not be reflected in the digital readout you see on the unit.
  • the CV and CC (constant voltage and constant current) lights trigger when you’ve hit the limit you’ve set on the dial for that particular setting. So if CV is on and I see 3.5V on the readout, that means the dial for the voltage is set to a max of 3.5V and I’ve hit it. On the other hand if CC is on and I see 2.0 amps on the readout, that’s the current limit the dial is currently set to, and I’ve hit it with whatever device is attached. So to accurately adjust the max current or voltage, you pretty much need the corresponding light to be on.
  • Example usage: to charge a battery at 14.5 volts, disconnect the leads from everything. Turn the current to anything non-zero and the CV light should come on. Now you can adjust the voltage to 14.5. Hook it up to the battery – you’ll likely get a spark, so make sure you’ve got some face/body protection in case things explode. At this point, the CC light will usually come on (and the voltage might drop, though don’t adjust the dial because that would change the max without giving an indication as to what you might be setting it to). Turn the current up to whatever you’re comfortable with. As the battery accepts the juice (or if the current dial gets high enough), you’ll probably see the voltage start climbing back up until it caps at the 14.5V.
  • Note: The instructions claim that you shouldn’t run it at more than 60% of it’s rated load for extended periods. You don’t find that out until you’ve bought the unit. So keep that in mind.


The beauty of the charger compared to a normal battery charger is that it will allow an “equalization” charge, aka a “forced overcharge’. 15-16 volts is common for this (at room temperature). This is impossible to do on most of the car-battery-chargers in the automotive section of most stores.

The other benefit is that you can use it on other types of batteries too. 6V, 9V, 18V NiCd batteries can all be handled. And if you run into a 24V battery bank, this charger will do it.

The downside is that there’s no auto-shutoff. If you’re charging at a normal battery-charger rate (say 12.5-13.5V), assuming the battery takes the charge, you’ll get the current dropping to really low levels which is close to being off anyway. But if you’ve set it for an equalization charge at 16V and forgot about it for a couple weeks, there aren’t a lot of happy end scenarios.

The 605d was grabbed from It appears quite similar to the XPOWER 605D 60 volt 5 amp charger available on Amazon for around $110.

Since you’re not likely to need a 60V supply for car batteries, 30V 5amp models are available in the ~$70 price range, including the WEP PS-305D and various other unbranded units. Between Amazon and eBay, you should be able to find something that works.


YIHUA 605D - not hooked up to anything YIHUA 605D - hooked up to a battery at 16V YIHUA 605D - Still hooked up to a battery, but current limited.
From left to right: (1) The power supply set to 13.4 volts, not attached to anything. (2) Attached to a 12V lead acid battery, set to 16V. While the current limiting dial is set to something around 3 amps, it’s taking 0.86 amps at the 16V setting. (3) I’ve turned down the current dial to 0.17 amps, and you’ll see the constant current light is on – even though the voltage dial is technically still set to 16V, limiting the current resulted in a voltage drop to 13.6 volts.

Moving on – chemical desulphation via Magnesium Sulfate

For a bit of a primer as to what happens to a lead acid battery during charge/discharge, the Lead Acid Electrochemistry Wikipedia entry shows the equations (and a sulfated battery is basically when the discharged state doesn’t reverse)

Sodium Sulphate and Magnesium Sulphate are both commonly used for 2 things when it comes to lead acid batteries:

  1. As a replacement electrolyte (some people do conversions from Sulphuric Acid to one of these salts to bring “new life” to the battery, at the expense of total capacity).
  2. To desulphate the battery.

For #2, much of what you see out there is based on testing that was done in the late 1800’s. Some of the references I’ve found in doing some research are to The Telegraphic Journal and Electrical Review. If you’re interested, Google’s scanned these and offers them for free. Here are the links if you’re interested in some additional reading:

The formulas that described what they were seeing when using Sodium Sulfate (in Volume 20) were as follows:

H2 + Na2SO4   ->   H2SO4 + Na2
Na2 + 2H2O    ->    2NaOH + H2
2NaOH + PbSO4   ->    Na2SO4 + Pb(OH)2
Pb(OH)2 + H2    ->    Pb + 2H2O

Common names (I’ve color-coded to make it easier to match up):
H2 – Hydrogen
Na2SO4 – Sodium Sulfate (the salt you’d add)
H2SO4 – Sulfuric Acid (battery acid)
Na2 – Sodium
H2O – Water
NaOH – Sodium Hydroxide (caustic soda, lye)
PbSO4 – Lead Sulfate (what builds on the battery plates, causing a “sulfated” battery)
Pb(OH)2 – Lead Hydroxide
Pb – Lead

I suspect the reaction via Magnesium Sulfate aka Epsom Salt (MgSO4) instead of Sodium Sulfate (Na2SO4) should be similar, though I’m admittedly not a chemist. Do note that this was the series of reactions that seemed to explain what they were seeing back in the late 1800’s. So it may or may not be an accurate representation of the processes that hapepn – it just happened to be what fit.

Assuming for the moment it is accurate though, an interesting thing to note though is that the Sodium/Magnesium sulfate isn’t actually “used up” in the process – it’s recovered in step #3. So dumping 1/4 teaspoon in each cell should have the same effect as dumping in a tablespoon – it just might take longer.

Magnesium Sulfate can be found:

…with bath products at most stores, sold as “Epsom Salt”. Get the pure stuff (not scented, or with additives).

Sodium Sulfate can be found:

…on Amazon (US) for around $6-15 (1 pound) last I checked.
…on eBay, which is where I ordered mine.


Putting it into practise…

The following is the way that *I* desulfate batteries. That doesn’t mean it’s necessarily the best way, but it’s largely worked for me. Magnesium Sulfate is what I’ve been using, though I have some Sodium Sulfate on order and plan to experiment on a few batteries using that (as well as a mixture).

I’ll put this into a series of steps:

  1. Safety first. Full face protection is a good idea, and make sure all your skin is covered. Be in a well vented area (ideally outdoors), and ensure that there are no nearby sources of flame or spark. “What will happen if the battery explodes right now?” is something you should keep in mind during the entire process.
  2. Pop the caps off the battery. This is usually easy for low-maintenance batteries. Sealed (maintenance-free) batteries might require drilling some holes. AGM-cell batteries usually have a plastic cover that has to be snapped off, and rubber caps that have to be removed.
  3. Mix the Magnesium Sulfate (Epsom Salt) in some warm distilled water. You’ll have to “ballpark” the amount of water that you’ll need based on how full the electrolyte in the battery currently is. If the electrolyte is already well above the plates, you may not be able to add much water, so keep that in mind. As for the amount of Magnesium Sulphate to add, I tend to aim for 1/8 teaspoon per cell in smaller batteries (and for AGM’s), and 1/4-1/2 teaspoon per cell for typical car batteries. Make sure it’s mixed well and that all the crystals have dissolved.
  4. Use a dedicated syringe, or a tiny funnel to add your solution to each cell. Keep in mind that when you charge the battery, the electrolyte level will rise, so while you want the water to be above the plates, you don’t want it filled too high to the point where it’ll overflow during charging. If you’re using an AGM battery, you only want to saturate the mat (you don’t want it actually filling with a visible pool of liquid) – to do this, you’ll have to peek in each of the holes as you add and watch the glass mat’s absorbsion rate – it should act like a paper-towel (absorb fast when dry and slow when saturated). Once it’s slowed, you’ll want to taper off and stop.
  5. Gently rocking/shaking the battery can help the mixture disperse more quickly though it risks some electrolyte and acid splashing out. A better idea can be to wait – when you apply an equalization charge, the gassing should help mix things up anyway, and it should naturally disperse with time too.
  6. Assuming the battery’s already got some charge to it, apply an equalization charge to the battery – at room temperature this should be about 15-16 volts. Most people seem to recommend low current – anywhere from 0.25 amps to 1 amp. I’ve found that some batteries require higher charge current to keep the voltage from dropping below 15-16 volts, but try to limit the current if you can.
  7. Carefully monitor the battery throughout the equalization charge. Temperatures might climb – I’d stop charging if you start getting in the 30-35˚C range, personally, since the cells might be hotter than what you’ll be able to measure externally. The battery will also gas during the charge (since gassing will always have started by the time you get near 14.5 volts), which is not only very explosive, but will also deplete your electrolyte. You don’t want any sparks (even static) or flame nearby, and you may have to top up the electrolyte periodically during the charge.
  8. I tend to do equalization charges in 2-3 hour bursts throughout the week. A few reasons for this:
    • It’s easier to remember to check the battery frequently over a 2-3 hour period. If you decide to charge for 24 hours instead, there’s a higher chance you’ll forget.
    • The Magnesium Sulfate takes time to work. Chemical reactions don’t happen instantly. By spreading out the charge over a week, the solution will have more time to work, and you’ll agitate the solution via gassing multiple times throughout the process.
    • You’ll hopefully be able to see small improvements with each charge.
    • Less chance of the battery overheating when you limit the charge duration (even though you *should* be monitoring it anyway).
  9. Once everything is done, disconnect the charger and replace the caps. For an AGM cell, a few dabs of glue on the previous break-points will often be enough to reattach the cover. If you had a maintenance-free battery and drilled holes, fashion some plugs – ideally something that will allow venting if you managed to accidentally mangle whatever venting system was previously in place.
  10. The battery’s performance should now be improved! It might improve a little more down the line as the Magnesium Sulfate continues to work across further charge cycles. If you’re not seeing any improvement, you could try repeating the process with a little more magnesium sulfate, though 0 improvement would lead me to believe that sulfation wasn’t the problem to begin with (the plates may have deteriorated).

Video version:

A few notes:

If you have a shorted cell, deteriorated plates, corrosion, or other internal physical “damage”, this won’t help. Shorted cells are usually easy to diagnose – if the battery wants to sit between 10-11 volts, that’s usually a telltale sign. Deteriorated plates on the other hand can have similar symptoms to sulfation – an inability to reach peak voltage, weak output, and low capacity. Note that AGM cells that have evaporated their electrolyte away and dried out the mat can exhibit similar symptoms.

Some people completely discharge the battery before adding the Magnesium/Sodium sulfate. Personally, I don’t go out of my way to discharge the battery first, since deep discharges are hard on the battery. I just add the sulfate to the battery at whatever-state-of-charge-it-happens-to-be-at and then charge from there.

One common theme amongst those who have used Sodium/Magnesium Sulfate is that when it successfully reverses the sulfation in the battery, the battery generally works fine until it dies from something else at which point it’s beyond recovery. This can be months later, or years later. So if you’ve chemically desulfated a battery to give it new life, the next time it dies, trying to desulfate again probably isn’t worth your time (the chance that sulfation is what killed it again is pretty low – it’s probably falling apart internally).

I’ve read a number of cases where people proactively add sodium/magnesium sulfate to brand new batteries to extend the life from the get-go (usually based on the notion that some battery companies in the past added sodium sulfate to more expensive batteries, and deep cycle batteries). I haven’t tried it, but if you have a new battery that didn’t cost much, it might be worth experimenting with.

Be big on safety. Even if you’re a risk-taker, at the very least wear some safety glasses – sometimes you can survive lead poisoning, sometimes a gash from an explosion doesn’t kill you, and sometimes you can grow back new skin – but you’ll never grow back new eyes. Even if you’ve done *everything right*, the battery could explode due to a poorly-timed internal short or a variety of other things.

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  1. mel on March 10, 2015 - click here to reply
    Hi.What do you thing of the different battery additives that are on the market,such as battery chem,or battery equalizer?
  2. Carlos on December 17, 2015 - click here to reply
    Hi Matt curious to your results with the Sodium Sulfate.
    Thank you,
    • Matt Gadient on December 17, 2015 - click here to reply
      Hey Carlos,

      It's been somewhat hit and miss. I had good recovery results on a number of the batteries, but others that were toast stayed toast. I've generally seen a benefit, but it's not a "miracle cure" by any means. Batteries that were on their last legs tended to get a little more oomph in them - certainly not anywhere "like new", but went from that-car-barely-started to hey-it-cranks-notably-faster-now. Batteries that were completely killed recently recovered extremely well to the point where I'll probably use it on every "great" battery we have that just died due to lights being left on.

      Edit: I forgot to mention, I did also use it on a UPS battery (lead acid, "gel cell" type) which runs a computer and router. It was about a decade old and was giving less than a minute of runtime when the power went out, compared to about an hour when it was new. After the "treatment", it went from under a minute to over half an hour, and hasn't decreased since. Of course, it got a dose of distilled water as part of the treatment (to mix the sodium sulfate in before adding with an eyedropper), so it's possible that simply rehydrating the thing played a large factor there too.

      Anyway, I know that's a little all over the place, but hopefully something in there helps.
      • rakoto on February 19, 2019 - click here to reply
        did you say sodium sulphate ? or did you accidentaly write sodium sulphate instead of magnesium sulphate
  3. baha on January 28, 2017 - click here to reply
    This is interesting. I experimented with a dead battery this past summer with great results.
    Its was a lawn mower battery that was left with the ignition on for years, would not hold a charge at all when it came to my possession.
    I first dumped all the acid out into a plastic tub,
    second, I filled the battery with tap water, tapped it gently, and poured out the grayish water. repeat this step until water looks more clear.
    third, I filled with water and discharged the battery completely by connecting both posts.
    fourth, for about 30 to 45 minutes, I charged the battery with reverse voltage, then dumped water out again.
    fifth, I dissolved about a tablespoon of Epsom salt with a cup of water, and mixed with the tub of battery acid.
    and finally, I refilled the battery with the acid and Epsom salt mixture, and slow charged it on 12v 2amps for 24 hours.

    same battery has been working wonderfully in the mower for the last 7 months or so. Last time we started the mower up, it had been sitting for about 3 months and battery had no problem at all, starter was turning over strong.
    hopefully this experiment is somewhat interesting for your analytical mind.
  4. Francis ukennah from nigeria on July 7, 2017 - click here to reply
    I added a saturated epsom salt mix to my new torch light battery it was already low on charge so i short circuited the battery to test its cranking amp it have 340mah . After filling it with the saturated solution without charging it. . It have 510mah at short circuit current . From my initial deduction it battery capacity seems to have increased by one and half times. I have not charged the battery for the first time since i bought it but it was a clear proof that epsom salt can improve the capacity of a battery apart from the usual claim of desulphating it. In my research i found out that epsom salt seems to be more compatible with lead acid battery chemistry than alum though with lesser capacity but higher voltage for most systems will not run with voltages lesser thier rated operational scenerio in spite of abundance of the current
  5. Anonymous on July 7, 2017 - click here to reply
    My first and second attempt at rejuvenating two 12v 7amp lead acid with epsom salt failed because when i plugged them to my 10amp 12v charger the bulged and got ruined. I later discovered that the current was too much later i reduced it and the battery started working better than my former battery candidates which i used distilled water only . I used to get a run time with my 30w soldering iron of about twenty minutes for my desulphated 12v 7amp u p s batteries but as i continued to increase the concentration of epsom salt in the subsequent candidate batteries i started getting over fourty minutes. My last battery with saturated epsom salt has given me exactly one and half hours which is enormous considering that the battery was dead before . In comparison to the only water added batteries it like about 4 to 5 times increase . I dont really know why manufacturers advice against such additives but it works tremendously for me and its not a myth as some ignorant fellows claim. Epsom salt is cheap and to a greater extent it is a viable solution to desulphation and increase in capacity . . It lowers the resistance enabling the battery to acquire a higher capacity whether its old or new
  6. Anonymous on August 30, 2017 - click here to reply
    Do you put the caps back on the battery prior to charging the battery?
    • Matt Gadient on September 1, 2017 - click here to reply
      It depends. When I do, I re-attach the plastic cover too because if the area around the caps is wet and forms a seal, sometimes the gassing causes the rubber caps to pop/fly off (and then some acid gets sprayed/splashed). Often I'll just leave the caps off during the initial charging and make sure to avoid any sparks.
  7. Baron on September 13, 2017 - click here to reply
    attempted to chpsarge my battery Bank of 8 12 volt batteries with a solar panel without a charge regulator controller I thought if I supervise them that they would be okay as long as they didn't get a charge exceeding 14 volts but they did not receive a charge amounting to more than 10 volts within 3 hours of charge time before they failed entirely 0 volts I think I shorted them out is there a way to fix this?
    • Matt Gadient on September 13, 2017 - click here to reply
      Hey Baron,

      I'd start by disconnecting all the batteries from the bank - charge them separately (may want to use a standard "dumb" battery charger - old ones with a 2A switch are really good for this), and sooner is obviously better to reduce the chance of sulfation. I don't think I'd necessarily go the magnesium/sodum sulfate route just yet.

      Once all 8 batteries have been separately charged, if you're intent on *not* using a charge controller, I would strongly suggest splitting your positive (+) output from the solar panel into 8 separate lines with diodes - a bus bar is common for this sort of splitting, though I suppose you could use a really fat marr connector or wire nut - basically 1 wire goes from the panel to the bus bar, and then you have 8 separate positive strings that go from the bus bar to the batteries and include a diode in the run. So you'll need 8 diodes for this, ideally rated at at least 25V, and an amp rating that matches (or exceeds) the current the solar panel can put out (may be labelled "short circuit current" on the panel sticker).

      The reason for the diodes is 2-fold:
      • It prevents the batteries from back-feeding into the panel (not usually common or a big problem, but can happen)
      • It prevents the batteries from equalizing with each other. So if one battery gets a short bringing it to 10V or has trouble holding capacity, it won't pull all the others down with it. I have no idea what your bank powers, but you may also want to consider diodes (another 8) in the positive lines from the batteries that run to the load. Essentially, you don't want the battery positives directly connected to each other unless they're perfectly matched - always have them go through a diode when at all possible because unmatched batteries tend to hold at different voltages which means weaker ones (often older ones) will constantly be draining the good ones. Personally I'd fuse each run too (both to and from each of the battery positives), but that's up to you.

      As far as the panel charging all the batteries goes, depending on the panel's rated current you might find it insufficient for keeping all 8 batteries in the bank up. For example a really good 50w panel might put out... say for example... 3.2A. That would mean each of the 8 batteries is getting 0.4A which might be enough to maintain a large car/deep_cycle battery but will typically take a long time to charge, and that's assuming one of the batteries isn't weak and trying to pull most of the current.

      On the other hand, if the panel's severely overrated (say a typical 100W panel on a single car battery), once the battery is charged you'll probably see roughly 15-17 volts at 5-6 amps being pumped in, which will tend to destroy the battery quickly.

      Charge controllers alleviate a number of the above issues (with an MPPT charge controller typically performing much better when the panel's a little weak for the batteries you're hoping to charge). So they'll keep you from having to worry about matching panel ratings to the batteries. But even with a charge controller, if the batteries aren't all the same brand/capacity/age/etc, I'd still be inclined to diode all the batteries in your bank to keep a weak one from discharging all the others (and also reduce the chance all the batteries explode if 1 receives a dead short).

      Hope something in there helps. Good luck!
  8. Bill Cormack on December 3, 2017 - click here to reply
    What are your thoughts on dumpimg the batteries and flushing out drity water. Then adding the epson salts mixed with water. Then doing your desulfation.
    • Matt Gadient on December 3, 2017 - click here to reply
      Sounds like essentially an electrolyte replacement? People have done it - if I'm remembering right (may not be), total capacity ends up being a good bit lower compared to lead acid but whether that's an issue depends on your use case and primary goal. Freezing point will change significantly - you may run into problems in cold temperatures depending on your location. Other electrolytes may be more ideal than Mg2SO4 (epsom salt), so searching around for "lead acid electrolyte replacement" or similar may be of value.

      Note that even if you're looking at swapping just for the sulfation process with plans to re-add the sulfuric acid afterwards, chances are that you'll end up with something somewhat more diluted in the end.

      Either way, a few larger things to consider up front:
      • You'll have some sulfuric acid splashing when dumping and flushing. Major eye, skin, and clothing risk here.
      • The original sulfuric acid solution will also contain lead so you've potentially got some environmental, toxicity, and disposal issues to keep in mind.
      • If it doesn't work (too heavily sulfated, battery has other issues like deteriorated/shorted plates, etc), you'll have expended quite a bit of time to deal with the original acid/lead in regards to safety/environment/etc. Be certain that a new battery isn't a more sensible option.
  9. Bill Cormack on December 3, 2017 - click here to reply
    WHERE CAN YOU BUY THE yihua 605d.
  10. Idea1man on January 9, 2019 - click here to reply
    Matt, great find with the 1800's books. It can be best to read the original discoveries, especially when inventing something new. I'm 71, and have been learning about batteries, electrolysis, capacitors, etc. I have my own new battery design ideas, and other inventions (not patented level). I was a chemistry major, so let me explain the battery chemistry. Those formulas were not battery chemistry. They were testing different chemistries used to "Form" battery positive plates. Those are lead oxide. In those separate reactions, hydrogen gas is produced when sodium metal is produced which reacts with water. To make a long story short, you could simply add NaOH to the PbSO4. That produces lead hydroxide, but that is also insoluble. That dissolves if there's enough hydrogen there. .. You missed the key words. ==Adding a LITTLE sodium or magnesium sulfate will make it easier to react all of the lead sulfate== when you charge the battery. It's called reducing it. ..... It works much better if you add a little Epsom salt to a new battery. Then it evidently doesn't get sulfated. The price you pay is losing some H2O because that's where the H2 comes from, and of course it's more dangerous with more H2. .. There is a store product that does this. I think it's called Balancer. It's cadmium sulfate. Wouldn't you expect it, cadmium is toxic. Possibly it is important to use a heavier metal. There is a little known battery with several improvements. It's called a lead cobalt battery, by Apollo Energy. Perhaps it has a little cobalt sulfate. ... Personally, I'm looking at trying dumping out the battery fluid, in an old sulfated battery, and putting in vinegar. Lead acetate is soluble. I would then dump that out, and put battery fluid in again. You lose the lead that's in the lead sulfate, but it's a quick clean if it works. ... I've taken apart a dead battery. The grids, that hold the lead, get oxidized, turned to rust. They crumble which breaks contact to the battery terminals. Better grids need to be used. ... Bob
  11. Idea1man on January 10, 2019 - click here to reply
    Hey Matt .. Thanks for finding that old British book. Don't know how you did it. ... You missed the important part, just before the p. 94 chemical formulas about sodium sulfate. Another scientist, working with many battery cells, added sodium carbonate, washing soda, which is dishwasher detergent, to the battery acid. Within 3 days, the lead plates were completely clean and new looking. This is counter intuitive. I was staying away from the idea of using a carbonate because lead carbonate is even more insoluble than lead sulfate. But the good part is that carbonates are only insoluble in pure water. They are soluble in dilute acids, which battery acid is. ... Bob .. Here's the quote
    ==In my presence Mr. Starkey put about three double handfulls of carbonate of soda into one of the defective cells, and a few days afterwards (May 1st) he wrote to say :—" I have run the engine all day and every day since you left, having put into the cells between 400 and 500 ampere hours, but yesterday there was no apparent difference in the appearance of the plates except in the cell to which we added carbonate of soda, and in this cell the peroxide plates were beginning to present a beautiful dark brown appearance. I then added a little carbonate of soda to each of the other 19 cells, and finding that the E.M.F. did not appear to fall I was encouraged to add more, so that now all the cells contain a considerable quantity of carbonate of soda. Apparently the resistance remains the same, at least the dynamo gives the same charging current of 10 amperes. A few lamps used last night burnt very brightly, certainly, if anything, better than they had ever done before .... the (peroxide) plates in all the cells are now becoming a beautiful dark brown very rapidly, and I anticipate in another day's charging they will be in appearance all that could be wished. The tops of the plate first becomes dark brown, and then the dark brown colour descends, the bottoms being the last to change colour. May 3rd.—I write a line to say that since adding the carbonate of soda and charging yesterday the dynamo, the plates now present a most beautiful appearance. The peroxide plates are uniformly over their entire surface a very dark brown, almost black, and the +plates look like clean new metallic lead."==
  12. Anonymous on January 21, 2019 - click here to reply
    It's working well with only a small amount. On the 2nd charge, the voltage jumped back to 12 from 10.5.
  13. idea1man on February 4, 2019 - click here to reply
    Important. Do not dissolve the sodium carbonate crystals in plain water first. It reacts with water to form unwanted sodium hydroxide which reacts badly with battery acid, neutralizing the acid, and forming a white precipitate, with a lot of bubbling.
    You must add the dry crystals directly to the battery.
  14. Ducres Kempers on February 6, 2019 - click here to reply
    You think it's going to work for a NARADA gel battery (which they think is a battery at a time AGM and GEL) I wish to have your help.
    • Matt Gadient on February 7, 2019 - click here to reply
      Difficult to know for certain. It's a fairly cost-effective thing to try though. If you suspect the AGM has simply dried out, you could always try just rehydrating it with a little distilled water.
      • Ducres Kempers on February 7, 2019 - click here to reply
        as I told you, it is a brand NARADA gel-polymer-agm system battery. I noticed this morning dipping a wire in the cells that it was a little wet. Do you think this is the characteristic of gel batteries? according to you I have to try with distilled water before epsom salt, right? Thank you !!! I am waiting for your answer.
        • Matt Gadient on February 7, 2019 - click here to reply
          I don't think anyone will be able to give you a concrete/certain answer. Really, it's often a best-guess situation with these things. With a standard lead acid it's a little more simple because whether it needs topping up with water tends to be visibly obvious. It's not as obvious with an AGM. So whether the situation with your battery is evaporation/gassing, sulfation, both, or something else (like plate deterioration which can not be fixed) is very hard to know.

          It sounds like the glass mat is probably still wet, but whether it's sufficiently saturated or not is hard to know for sure. If it needs rehydrating, then adding distilled water will likely help. If it's already sufficiently saturated, adding distilled water will likely hurt (it'll reduce the concentration of the electrolyte).

          If it were me... If the battery was currently toast and the battery was either old or had gone though severe charge/discharge cycles, I'd operate under the assumption that there may be some sulfation and it may have lost some water over time. Thus, I'd probably dissolve some epsom salt in distilled water and add a few mL to each cell, continuing until the glass mat looked as though it's no longer absorbing water as quickly as when I started. If the battery is used for high current applications I'd likely stop there, give it a charge, and see if the battery has recovered at all. On the other hand, if the battery is used for low current applications that aren't highly voltage sensitive (in which case some loss in capacity/output/concentration isn't the end of the world), and assuming the battery is always oriented right-side up, I'd probably continue adding the epsom/water solution until I can see it in the cell. In this latter case I'd probably use a weak epsom salt concentration because it gives some room if I decide later to "boil" (gas) out some excess water via charging.
    • Anonymous on February 14, 2021 - click here to reply
      Is it an AGM or a Gel? they "are not" the same thing, AGMs could/should be possible to re-hydrate, Gel's "are not", unless you have the capacity to remove the silice-gel mix some hydrating material to the exact density and pour it back eliminating all bubbles and voids specially where the gel makes contact with the plates.

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