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> <channel><title>Comments on: From regular to LED bulbs &#8211; How much of a power savings can you expect?</title> <atom:link href="http://mattgadient.com/2006/10/12/from-regular-to-led-bulbs-how-much-of-a-power-savings-can-you-expect/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://mattgadient.com/2006/10/12/from-regular-to-led-bulbs-how-much-of-a-power-savings-can-you-expect/</link> <description>Informational blogging by Matthew Gadient.</description> <lastBuildDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 18:03:35 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Matt Gadient</title><link>http://mattgadient.com/2006/10/12/from-regular-to-led-bulbs-how-much-of-a-power-savings-can-you-expect/#comment-2930</link> <dc:creator>Matt Gadient</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 18:29:13 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://mattgadient.com/2006/10/12/from-regular-to-led-bulbs-how-much-of-a-power-savings-can-you-expect/#comment-2930</guid> <description>AJ:I didn&#039;t replace the signal bulbs, because LED&#039;s are in fact known to wreak havoc with the flash rate. The flashing unit itself expect a certain resistive load (the same load provided by a couple regular automotive bulbs). It would likely either stay full-on, flash at an insanely quick rate, or not flash at all.There are 2 known &quot;fixes&quot; for this.1) Add resistors (you can actually find resistors on eBay meant to be added to the line when you use LED&#039;s in cars). These provide the resistive load, and you get a normal flash rate. However, it comes with downsides - the resistors themselves have to be spliced into the line, which means you&#039;re cutting wires to put them in. The other downside is that they heat up, which means they&#039;re converting power to heat, which means... you&#039;re not getting any energy savings by using them. So you basically defeat the power savings benefit.2) Replace your flasher unit with an electronic one. These can also be found on eBay and start at about $25 if I remember right. Because they&#039;re electronic and don&#039;t depend on the circuit load, they flash at a steady rate. It should in fact be possible to find electronic flashers where you can even *adjust* the flashing rate. They shouldn&#039;t use much power at all, so you keep the power savings benefit. Downsides here though... there are a couple pin variations for flasher units - you have to make sure you get the right one for your vehicle. They&#039;re also more of a pain to install - best-case-scenario you&#039;re crawling under your dash to replace it. Worst-case-install-scenerio you&#039;re pulling stuff apart to get to the flasher. Next downside is that it&#039;s adding cost to your conversion (at least $25). Finally, because they&#039;re electronic and flash at a steady rate, you don&#039;t get any indication if a bulb burns out. Remember in a standard system, if your signal starts flashing quickly you know a bulb is burned out - not so in an electronic flasher because it goes at a steady rate regardless.In any case, had I been intent on using LED&#039;s for the signals, I would have gone with the electronic flasher. However, because the signals aren&#039;t on very often (just for a couple seconds when changing lanes, or maybe a minute at a time when sitting at a light making a turn - really of all the bulbs in the car, they&#039;re on the least and therefore benefit the least from LED&#039;s), I decided it wasn&#039;t really worth the extra expense and hassle of putting it in. So regular bulbs for signals and LED&#039;s everywhere else has been the best compromise.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJ:</p><p>I didn&#8217;t replace the signal bulbs, because LED&#8217;s are in fact known to wreak havoc with the flash rate. The flashing unit itself expect a certain resistive load (the same load provided by a couple regular automotive bulbs). It would likely either stay full-on, flash at an insanely quick rate, or not flash at all.</p><p>There are 2 known &#8220;fixes&#8221; for this.</p><p>1) Add resistors (you can actually find resistors on eBay meant to be added to the line when you use LED&#8217;s in cars). These provide the resistive load, and you get a normal flash rate. However, it comes with downsides &#8211; the resistors themselves have to be spliced into the line, which means you&#8217;re cutting wires to put them in. The other downside is that they heat up, which means they&#8217;re converting power to heat, which means&#8230; you&#8217;re not getting any energy savings by using them. So you basically defeat the power savings benefit.</p><p>2) Replace your flasher unit with an electronic one. These can also be found on eBay and start at about $25 if I remember right. Because they&#8217;re electronic and don&#8217;t depend on the circuit load, they flash at a steady rate. It should in fact be possible to find electronic flashers where you can even *adjust* the flashing rate. They shouldn&#8217;t use much power at all, so you keep the power savings benefit. Downsides here though&#8230; there are a couple pin variations for flasher units &#8211; you have to make sure you get the right one for your vehicle. They&#8217;re also more of a pain to install &#8211; best-case-scenario you&#8217;re crawling under your dash to replace it. Worst-case-install-scenerio you&#8217;re pulling stuff apart to get to the flasher. Next downside is that it&#8217;s adding cost to your conversion (at least $25). Finally, because they&#8217;re electronic and flash at a steady rate, you don&#8217;t get any indication if a bulb burns out. Remember in a standard system, if your signal starts flashing quickly you know a bulb is burned out &#8211; not so in an electronic flasher because it goes at a steady rate regardless.</p><p>In any case, had I been intent on using LED&#8217;s for the signals, I would have gone with the electronic flasher. However, because the signals aren&#8217;t on very often (just for a couple seconds when changing lanes, or maybe a minute at a time when sitting at a light making a turn &#8211; really of all the bulbs in the car, they&#8217;re on the least and therefore benefit the least from LED&#8217;s), I decided it wasn&#8217;t really worth the extra expense and hassle of putting it in. So regular bulbs for signals and LED&#8217;s everywhere else has been the best compromise.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: AJ</title><link>http://mattgadient.com/2006/10/12/from-regular-to-led-bulbs-how-much-of-a-power-savings-can-you-expect/#comment-2929</link> <dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 18:05:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
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